Keystone Business Development
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Sales Essentials: Ramp-Up Course

Eight condensed sessions covering the core of the Sales Essentials program.

Session 4 of 8

Getting Commitments Throughout the Sales Process

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The Buyer-Seller Disconnect at the First Meeting

Upfront contracts is our topic today, and our friend the pendulum comes back into play. When we think about the mindset of a buyer coming into a very first conversation, they've agreed to the meeting - they're interested enough to give you that - but they could be coming in from anywhere on the spectrum. Some of them: it's not a concern area right now, but for whatever reason they took the meeting. I had one of these recently where the prospect said, "Honestly, Emily, I took this meeting as a favor because one of my colleagues really likes you, and I thought I would just do her a solid." That's way over on the negative end of the pendulum. Others are happy where they are but mildly interested in keeping up with other options - their vibe is "give me your pitch, send me some info." And then others come right out of the gate with, "We've heard really good things about you, and our hope is to see a proposal soon after this conversation." Our buyers can be anywhere along that spectrum, and our goal, no matter where they enter, is to maintain equal business stature.

I want you to think about a very first meeting with a prospect across three buckets: time, talking, and outcomes. On time - as the buyer, how much of my time do I want to allocate? As the seller, how long do I want this meeting to be? On talking - who does the buyer want to do most of the talking, and who does the seller want doing most of the talking? And on outcomes - what does each side want to walk away with at the end?

What we often see is that a buyer accepts an hour-long invite, but starts the conversation with, "Yeah, I know I said an hour, but I really only have 20 or 30 minutes today." And how often do we find out they're perfectly willing to go the full hour once we get into it? It's frequently a smokescreen. The buyer is protecting their time - leaving the door open to act like they're busy and have somewhere to be if they decide to disqualify the seller. We have to expect that. We have to go into first sales calls expecting people to put up that wall right out of the gate, even if we're wonderful, even if we haven't been pushy. That's just the baggage they carry from talking to salespeople throughout their career.

Why Misaligned Expectations Derail Calls

On talking: as salespeople, we typically want to do as much discovery as possible in a first conversation. We want to know about their business, what they're dealing with, whether they have problems we can solve. We go in saying, "I want them to do the talking." But buyers often come to the table with, "All right, give me your pitch - show me what you got." They want us to show our stuff, and then they'll decide if it's worth continuing. There's inherent conflict there, because we're supposed to somehow guess what they care about without knowing anything about them.

On outcomes, the gap is just as wide. Buyers want to know how much it costs and what it would involve. Sellers think, "That's my leverage - can I get another meeting before I give them those details?" Buyers also want to reserve the right to do nothing. "Let me think about it. Follow up with me down the road." They want to keep us as an option while also preserving the ability to walk away. As sellers, we want to know: is this in my pipeline after today or not? Are we taking a next step?

I hope this conversation has made it clear that there is a huge opportunity for buyers and sellers to not be on the same page - and that's not just at first meetings. That's any time we show up to have a conversation with a customer or a prospect. The classic failure point is that we come in, do some bonding and rapport, spend 55 minutes presenting, and then at the very end we say, "So, do you want to take a next step?" We've just put them on the spot with five minutes left on the clock, and we end up with, "Could you send me some information?" And we lose control entirely. That's mutual mystification - we're both on the wrong page about the fact that we're not on the same page.

The Four Elements of an Upfront Contract

Here's what we want to do instead. We want to use an upfront contract to address all of those anxieties in a low-stakes way right up front. There are four elements, and I'll walk through each one.

The first is **time**. At the beginning of the conversation, you say something like, "I know we agreed to 30 minutes - is that still where we're at? Do you have any hard stops between now and then that we need to be aware of?" This is where you'll find out, "Oh, I forgot to mention, I only have 20 minutes today." Now, because buyers often keep their walls up, their answer will frequently sound like, "I could do the 45 minutes if we had to, but I've got a lot on my plate and I'd really appreciate if we could wrap it up in 20." Expect that. The beautiful thing about addressing it upfront is that when you get to 20 minutes and you say, "I know you said you only had 20 minutes - do we need to wrap up?" and they say, "No, keep going" - you just secured your equal business stature. You just got confirmation that they're finding value in the conversation.

The second element is **purpose**. Often this piece is already understood, but if there are new people in the room, or any chance someone wasn't briefed on why they're there, you want to restate it. "We discussed getting together to figure out if we're a potential fit to work together - is that what you expected?" That's all it needs to be.

The third element is the **agenda**, and this goes both ways. Their agenda is usually something like: learn more about your product, understand how you implement it, and find out what it costs. You acknowledge that, and then you ask, "Is there anything else we need to talk about today to make sure this was a good use of your time?" You're giving them the opportunity to contribute to the agenda. It's very common for salespeople to come to a sales meeting with their own agenda and never invite input - and that's a missed opportunity.

Once you have a shared agenda, you also want to preview what discovery you need to run. Something like: "To better determine how we might be able to help you - if we even can - I'll need to ask you questions related to things like your sales organization structure, revenue goals, and so on. Are you okay if we spend some time on those?" The reason to preview it is that buyers can get guarded mid-discovery when a question catches them off guard. If you've already told them what territory you'll be covering, and explained why you need to go there, they're far more likely to engage openly. That only works, though, because you've already hit the pressure release valve - you've already made it safe.

Defining the Outcomes: No Before Yes

The fourth element is **outcomes**, and this is where the real magic is. The art here is very intentional: you always define no before you define yes.

It might sound like this: "At the end of our meeting, one or both of us may decide we don't really see a fit to take a next step. If that's the case, I'll absolutely let you know if I suspect that's true. Are you comfortable letting me know as well if that's where you land?" You're hitting that pressure release valve hard. You are making it crystal clear that it is okay to say no, and that you're not going to make it weird.

Only after you've established that do you earn the right to define yes - because in the absence of the pressure release, defining yes feels pushy. "On the other hand, if we do find a fit, typically the next step would simply be finding another time to talk and getting that on the calendar. I'm not sure we'll get there, but that's usually what happens if this goes well. Are you comfortable with that?"

Now imagine flipping the order - starting with yes. "At the end of this call today, we'll set another meeting on the calendar. Unless, of course, you don't want to." It simply does not have the same effect. You have to start with permission to say no before you define your yes.

Running the Full Upfront Contract in Practice

Here's what the whole thing sounds like in sequence: "I know we have 45 minutes scheduled. That said, I know things come up - is there anything we need to be aware of in terms of hard stops between now and then? We're good? Great. The purpose of our meeting is really to figure out whether or not we should talk again. At this point, I don't know enough about your business and you don't know enough about mine to know if that's the case, but I'm hoping we can figure that out today. I know on your end you wanted to hear more about our training programs, structure, and pricing - I'm happy to share that. Is there anything else we need to cover to make sure this was a good use of your time? On my end, I'll need to understand a bit more about your team - how many people, how they're structured, what challenges you're having meeting your revenue goals. And at the end, typically one of two things will happen. Either one or both of us will realize there isn't really anything here that warrants another conversation - if I think that's the case, I'll let you know, and I hope you'll do the same. Or we find something worth exploring further, in which case we'd simply set another call and figure out who else might need to be involved. Do you think we could come to one of those two decisions today? Great."

One important note: an upfront contract is a dialogue, not a monologue. It feels like a monologue when you're learning it, but you're getting their feedback throughout, they're contributing to the agenda, and they're conversing with you at each step.

The "Contract Before the Contract"

There's one more practical problem to be aware of. When you're running an upfront contract, your buyer doesn't know that's what you're doing. So what happens is you do time, you confirm agenda, you ask what they need to cover - and they just start answering your questions. They jump straight into the meeting. You end up in the beginning of a discovery call without ever getting to outcomes, which is the most powerful piece of the whole thing. You're not going to cut them off mid-discovery to say, "Wait, can we go back?" So you've lost control.

The way you handle that is by being explicit that what you're doing right now is agenda-setting. We call it the contract before the contract. It's as simple as saying, "Before we get started, would it make sense for us to take a minute to set an agenda and make sure we're on the same page?" That one sentence signals to the buyer that we're in a setup phase, not yet in the meeting itself. Then you move through time, agenda, and outcomes - and they stay with you for the whole thing.

Starting With Time and Agenda, Then Layering In Outcomes

A few honest expectations as we land this plane. If this is your first time learning upfront contracts, you're probably sitting there feeling like this was a lot. That is completely normal, and you're exactly where you should be. The goal right now is not full expertise - it's that we've created a file in your brain called "upfront contracts" so that when you hear it again in later lessons, or within your organization, you know what it means and why it exists.

When you start practicing, it's very common to begin with just time and agenda. Get really comfortable confirming time and co-creating the agenda, and make that your consistent practice before you layer on anything else. When I was learning this, that's exactly what I did. And even at that level, I appeared more organized and more professional than my competition. But I'll tell you honestly - I didn't see the real magic until I layered in outcomes. The magic dust is in outcomes. So it's okay to start with time and agenda, but that's your warning: the whole thing doesn't fully click until outcomes are in the mix. This is a marathon, not a sprint. The only way to see why this works is to get out there and try it.